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	<title>Comments on: WDS 3.0 Beta Engine Preview</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon,

Is the WDS 3 be realeased this week?</description>
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<p>Is the WDS 3 be realeased this week?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh - 

Keep an eye on my blog over the next few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh &#8211; </p>
<p>Keep an eye on my blog over the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfortunate that there is not some information as to when WDS 3.0 will be available; I am trying to decide if I should wait out for a UI or uninstall and go back to Google Desktop.  If it was impending that would be good for the community to know.

I installed as it seems to be required for using Office 2007 beta 2; and it seemed ridiculous to also install Google Desktop.  However, the lack of UI is reducing my productivity...  I realize it&#039;s a beta and intended for testing but it&#039;s been some months and some transparency into your roadmap even if it shift would be of use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that there is not some information as to when WDS 3.0 will be available; I am trying to decide if I should wait out for a UI or uninstall and go back to Google Desktop.  If it was impending that would be good for the community to know.</p>
<p>I installed as it seems to be required for using Office 2007 beta 2; and it seemed ridiculous to also install Google Desktop.  However, the lack of UI is reducing my productivity&#8230;  I realize it&#8217;s a beta and intended for testing but it&#8217;s been some months and some transparency into your roadmap even if it shift would be of use.</p>
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		<title>By: Oren Kramer</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>Oren Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I have a problem with Windows desktop search. I downloaded and install Windows Desktop Search from Microsoft web site and everything works 100%. I have office 2003 on my Desktop. On my Laptop computer i can&#039;t get it installed. I have Outlook 2007 beta and rest of office applications are 2003 (When installing the office 2007 beta i chose only outlook). 

Now when i&#039;m trying to install i get &quot;You already have the latest version of Windows desktop search&quot; but i can&#039;t see the search bar to search my PC. As far as i see it adds search box to outlook that searches outlook only.

How can i install/tweak it to have the nice &quot;Search Desktop&quot; box on bottom tray?

Many Thanks!

Oren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I have a problem with Windows desktop search. I downloaded and install Windows Desktop Search from Microsoft web site and everything works 100%. I have office 2003 on my Desktop. On my Laptop computer i can&#8217;t get it installed. I have Outlook 2007 beta and rest of office applications are 2003 (When installing the office 2007 beta i chose only outlook). </p>
<p>Now when i&#8217;m trying to install i get &#8220;You already have the latest version of Windows desktop search&#8221; but i can&#8217;t see the search bar to search my PC. As far as i see it adds search box to outlook that searches outlook only.</p>
<p>How can i install/tweak it to have the nice &#8220;Search Desktop&#8221; box on bottom tray?</p>
<p>Many Thanks!</p>
<p>Oren</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Brandon,

I am looking forward for the next WDS 3 version. Do you have any idea when it will be available?

Thanks
Marcus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brandon,</p>
<p>I am looking forward for the next WDS 3 version. Do you have any idea when it will be available?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Marcus</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly I don&#039;t follow any of the WinFS plans, so I don&#039;t really have any details to give you about that technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I don&#8217;t follow any of the WinFS plans, so I don&#8217;t really have any details to give you about that technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Thomas</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 05:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume this will be a component of the WinFS Beta 2 release, due about now.


What I would like to know about the WDS3.0 API is whether there&#039;s any explicit support for indexing of Alternate Data Streams, which as far as I can work out has only been possible until now by writing a special iFilter for the file types that have metadata stored in this fashion. 
Since a key tenet of the WinFS data model is the use of metadata (that initially, out of the box, fits the well-defined schemas), and a number of organizations have moved beyond the confinement of propertypages for metadata, it would be nice to have some standardized tools to use the WDS on current platforms (XP, 2000, 2003) for ADS metadata search.

Windows XP, Windows 2003 Server, and IE already make use of the Alternate Data Stream for download security (Attachment Execution Service) and for graphics images.  

As I understand it, the use of WinFS over XP SP2 or in Vista (when a user decides to &#039;convert&#039; an NTFS volume) will &quot;promote&quot; the ADS to Items - and I assume there will be some standard way that this is handled. 

Where can I find out about this standard way of handling ADS to Items promotion?

It would be lovely to have some guidance on this. And it may be possible for Microsoft to gently shove those of us relying on our own metadata implementations for information search in the current Windows NTFS file system, towards a less traumatic migration path to the WinFS metadata model. I think you in the WDS team could do that with some code samples, some extensions to the WDS API, and some words of wisdom in an article or whitepaper.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume this will be a component of the WinFS Beta 2 release, due about now.</p>
<p>What I would like to know about the WDS3.0 API is whether there&#8217;s any explicit support for indexing of Alternate Data Streams, which as far as I can work out has only been possible until now by writing a special iFilter for the file types that have metadata stored in this fashion.<br />
Since a key tenet of the WinFS data model is the use of metadata (that initially, out of the box, fits the well-defined schemas), and a number of organizations have moved beyond the confinement of propertypages for metadata, it would be nice to have some standardized tools to use the WDS on current platforms (XP, 2000, 2003) for ADS metadata search.</p>
<p>Windows XP, Windows 2003 Server, and IE already make use of the Alternate Data Stream for download security (Attachment Execution Service) and for graphics images.  </p>
<p>As I understand it, the use of WinFS over XP SP2 or in Vista (when a user decides to &#8216;convert&#8217; an NTFS volume) will &#8220;promote&#8221; the ADS to Items &#8211; and I assume there will be some standard way that this is handled. </p>
<p>Where can I find out about this standard way of handling ADS to Items promotion?</p>
<p>It would be lovely to have some guidance on this. And it may be possible for Microsoft to gently shove those of us relying on our own metadata implementations for information search in the current Windows NTFS file system, towards a less traumatic migration path to the WinFS metadata model. I think you in the WDS team could do that with some code samples, some extensions to the WDS API, and some words of wisdom in an article or whitepaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Janson</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Janson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon,
This is good news.  I&#039;m watching this closely, and some of the advances you mention really do sound like this will be sutiatble for deploying in a Terminall Server environnment.  (One index per computer sounds cool, rather than an index per user).  Is WDS 3.0 going to support X64?  Obviously in Vista it will but what about Windows Server 2003 x64 and Win XP X64?  I run XP X64 currenlty at work, and miss my desktop search! :o)

I really do see desktop search as a killer app, and its something I&#039;m itching to give my users.  Any insight as to when we might expect a fuller 3.0 beat release would be useful info. as well! 

Thanks as always,

Janson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brandon,<br />
This is good news.  I&#8217;m watching this closely, and some of the advances you mention really do sound like this will be sutiatble for deploying in a Terminall Server environnment.  (One index per computer sounds cool, rather than an index per user).  Is WDS 3.0 going to support X64?  Obviously in Vista it will but what about Windows Server 2003 x64 and Win XP X64?  I run XP X64 currenlty at work, and miss my desktop search! <img src='http://brandonlive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>I really do see desktop search as a killer app, and its something I&#8217;m itching to give my users.  Any insight as to when we might expect a fuller 3.0 beat release would be useful info. as well! </p>
<p>Thanks as always,</p>
<p>Janson</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McLeod</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 10:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep I would imagine the API documentation should exist in the Vista Platform SDK, called the Windows SDK these days but I couldn&#039;t find any info after downloading the matching Feb version of the SDK that matches the Vista Feb CTP release.

I posted this same question on the MSDN Forum - &#039;Search, Organize and Visualize in Windows Vista&#039; just over a month ago and never received any replies from MS to the question.

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=327921&amp;SiteID=1

So hopefully the API documentation will make it into the Beta2 SDK release.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep I would imagine the API documentation should exist in the Vista Platform SDK, called the Windows SDK these days but I couldn&#8217;t find any info after downloading the matching Feb version of the SDK that matches the Vista Feb CTP release.</p>
<p>I posted this same question on the MSDN Forum &#8211; &#8216;Search, Organize and Visualize in Windows Vista&#8217; just over a month ago and never received any replies from MS to the question.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=327921&amp;SiteID=1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=327921&amp;SiteID=1</a></p>
<p>So hopefully the API documentation will make it into the Beta2 SDK release.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ellis</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 07:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Is WDS3 what powers the instant search/word wheel stuff as used by IE7&#039;s RSS view?

Cheers
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Is WDS3 what powers the instant search/word wheel stuff as used by IE7&#8217;s RSS view?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://brandonlive.com/2006/05/02/wds-30-beta-engine-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the API documentation lives in the Vista Platform SDK.  I think there should be an updated one soon for Vista beta 2.

I&#039;ll post about that when I see it go out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the API documentation lives in the Vista Platform SDK.  I think there should be an updated one soon for Vista beta 2.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post about that when I see it go out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 05:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Any links to the API documentation for the WDS 3.0 engine? I wanted to try a couple of things with the Vista Feb CTP but couldn&#039;t find any API documentation in the Feb Windows SDK on the WDS indexing engine.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Any links to the API documentation for the WDS 3.0 engine? I wanted to try a couple of things with the Vista Feb CTP but couldn&#8217;t find any API documentation in the Feb Windows SDK on the WDS indexing engine.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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