Comments on: WDS 3.0 Beta 2 32-bit and 64-bit http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/ Seattle Geek with lots to say. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kevin http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-54094 Kevin Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:25:58 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-54094 Brandon, The following MS website HAD been tracking a problem with re-indexing every time you rebooted your machine. It has gone all quite with MS completely silent the past month. http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1297957&SiteID=1 What's up? This is frustrating at best! Thanks, Brandon,

The following MS website HAD been tracking a problem with re-indexing every time you rebooted your machine.

It has gone all quite with MS completely silent the past month.

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1297957&SiteID=1

What’s up? This is frustrating at best!

Thanks,

]]> By: Phil Wyatt http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-42658 Phil Wyatt Sat, 12 May 2007 03:20:32 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-42658 I just downloaded WDS for win XP Pro and it is a real pain. Under "email" search, I ask it to search on partila character strings on either the subject or the sender and I get "0" results returned. What kind of serch is that? Help would be appreciated. I remember about a year ago I downloaded an unsupported MS search tool that allowed me to search on folder or email and it worked fine for partial email subjects or senders. Do you know the name of it and is it still available? I am on a different machine otherwise I would use it. Thanks. I just downloaded WDS for win XP Pro and it is a real pain. Under “email” search, I ask it to search on partila character strings on either the subject or the sender and I get “0″ results returned. What kind of serch is that?
Help would be appreciated.

I remember about a year ago I downloaded an unsupported MS search tool that allowed me to search on folder or email and it worked fine for partial email subjects or senders. Do you know the name of it and is it still available? I am on a different machine otherwise I would use it.

Thanks.

]]> By: Sandie http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-42258 Sandie Thu, 10 May 2007 18:49:35 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-42258 Hi brandon, I'm sure you will be able to help. I have just removed Windows Desktop Search from my computer coz it doesn't close down properly when I shut down my machine. I get two other messages at the end about windowssearch.exe and spssearch and have to close these down manually too. My machine was also working very very slowing in fits and starts. I haven't shut down again since rebooting after the removal, so don't know if the messages will still come up, but machine is definately responding much quicker. My question is; will I have caused a problem on my system by removing WDS? ie will programmes not run properly without it? Please help Regards A novice! :) Hi brandon,

I’m sure you will be able to help. I have just removed Windows Desktop Search from my computer coz it doesn’t close down properly when I shut down my machine. I get two other messages at the end about windowssearch.exe and spssearch and have to close these down manually too. My machine was also working very very slowing in fits and starts. I haven’t shut down again since rebooting after the removal, so don’t know if the messages will still come up, but machine is definately responding much quicker.

My question is; will I have caused a problem on my system by removing WDS? ie will programmes not run properly without it?

Please help
Regards
A novice! :)

]]> By: mike http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-24567 mike Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:25:14 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-24567 Brandon, I am on vista. I use mail and live mail desktop. the problem is that vista does not seem to do an instant search on my mail from the os shell. it searches great from the apps. when I put in a term, it just seems to go on and on and on and pulls up one or two. Any tips? thanks Brandon,

I am on vista. I use mail and live mail desktop. the problem is that vista does not seem to do an instant search on my mail from the os shell. it searches great from the apps. when I put in a term, it just seems to go on and on and on and pulls up one or two. Any tips?

thanks

]]> By: Ivan Raide http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-21770 Ivan Raide Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:38:55 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-21770 Brandon Says: "64-bit OSes are currently not supported (which affects me as well since I run Vista x64). I don’t know what the plan is around x64 support but I’ll try to find out after the new year." Have you found anymore out about this, (or a way around the problem). I unfortunately tried installing UNC-FAT in Vista64 before finding this site and realizing that it was not working :-( Brandon Says: “64-bit OSes are currently not supported (which affects me as well since I run Vista x64). I don’t know what the plan is around x64 support but I’ll try to find out after the new year.”

Have you found anymore out about this, (or a way around the problem). I unfortunately tried installing UNC-FAT in Vista64 before finding this site and realizing that it was not working :-(

]]> By: Brandon http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-21167 Brandon Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:36:43 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-21167 Hi Howard - those filetypes should be indexed by default using the Plain Text IFilter, which means they should work automatically. Are you running on XP or Vista? Unfortunately they won't be preview in the preview pane for those on Vista out-of-the-box, though I'm sure someone will make a previewer available soon. Are the folders with your source files included in the list of locations to index? (you need to be an Administrator to alter those) Hi Howard – those filetypes should be indexed by default using the Plain Text IFilter, which means they should work automatically.

Are you running on XP or Vista? Unfortunately they won’t be preview in the preview pane for those on Vista out-of-the-box, though I’m sure someone will make a previewer available soon.

Are the folders with your source files included in the list of locations to index? (you need to be an Administrator to alter those)

]]> By: Howard Glenn Inman http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-21155 Howard Glenn Inman Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:54:34 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-21155 Brandon, It is cool that you have this site. I have a question that I dont know how to get answered. In the 3.0 Search, I would like to index my C, CPP, CS, ect. I try to add these extensions in the Advanced options File Types. It looks like it adds them, but when I revisit that tab nothing is there. Any Ideas? Brandon,
It is cool that you have this site. I have a question that I dont know how to get answered. In the 3.0 Search, I would like to index my C, CPP, CS, ect. I try to add these extensions in the Advanced options File Types. It looks like it adds them, but when I revisit that tab nothing is there. Any Ideas?

]]> By: Jeremy http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-19115 Jeremy Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:43:34 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-19115 Steve, I'm not an MS person, but I've tried to report this error to as many places as I can think of without success in getting an answer. The easiest way to reproduce the problem is to create a large file 40 MB file (Excel or Word preferably but I don't think it matters) and put it in the UNC path your WDS is indexing. Open the file from your machine and click save. This should cause the error your seeing every time. It happens with 2.x and 3.0. I'm pretty sure WDS only knows not to index a file if it's LOCAL hard drive has no activity. Since the save is being carried out on a network drive WDS sees the new file and, even though it's not complete, starts to index it. When it starts to index it puts the "SHARE ACCESS = READ" lock on the file. When Word is done saving the file it tries to re-access the saved version but WDS has a lock and Word will through the error. Virus detection programs had this problem years ago. I'm surprised the WDS team can't use the same sort of trickery to solve it as the anti-virus guys did. Steve,
I’m not an MS person, but I’ve tried to report this error to as many places as I can think of without success in getting an answer.

The easiest way to reproduce the problem is to create a large file 40 MB file (Excel or Word preferably but I don’t think it matters) and put it in the UNC path your WDS is indexing. Open the file from your machine and click save. This should cause the error your seeing every time. It happens with 2.x and 3.0.

I’m pretty sure WDS only knows not to index a file if it’s LOCAL hard drive has no activity. Since the save is being carried out on a network drive WDS sees the new file and, even though it’s not complete, starts to index it. When it starts to index it puts the “SHARE ACCESS = READ” lock on the file. When Word is done saving the file it tries to re-access the saved version but WDS has a lock and Word will through the error. Virus detection programs had this problem years ago. I’m surprised the WDS team can’t use the same sort of trickery to solve it as the anti-virus guys did.

]]> By: Steve T. http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-18631 Steve T. Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:41:06 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-18631 Windows desktop search 02.06.5000.5378 gets installed when installing SolidWorks 2007 (a popular CAD software). When telling WDS to index a UNC path & all indexing is complete. Opening modifying & saving a word doc a few times (between 1 - 10 times repeatedly) to this UNC path can cause your modified word 2000 or 2003 file to suddently become read-only & the user is forced to as SaveAs & change the filename in order to not loose their work. This happens when: 1. your the only one indexing this location & you have "prioritize indexing" enabled & you modify & save a word doc a few times.... or 2. multiple machines without "prioritize indexing" turned on index the same UNC location & a few of them are idle & start indexing while users are saving word docs. Obviously this one is the bigger problem & compounds itself the more machines out there. Is this a known issue? any workaround for this while we wait for updates? I found this link: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/927018/en-us -- but it seems confusing & offers no solution. I provide techsupport with this CAD package & I fear this one will come up many many times soon as people start to use this search more & more - I am hopeing to find the answer before I get bombared. crossing my fingers that you may be able to help! Windows desktop search 02.06.5000.5378 gets installed when installing SolidWorks 2007 (a popular CAD software). When telling WDS to index a UNC path & all indexing is complete. Opening modifying & saving a word doc a few times (between 1 – 10 times repeatedly) to this UNC path can cause your modified word 2000 or 2003 file to suddently become read-only & the user is forced to as SaveAs & change the filename in order to not loose their work. This happens when:
1. your the only one indexing this location & you have “prioritize indexing” enabled & you modify & save a word doc a few times…. or
2. multiple machines without “prioritize indexing” turned on index the same UNC location & a few of them are idle & start indexing while users are saving word docs. Obviously this one is the bigger problem & compounds itself the more machines out there.

Is this a known issue? any workaround for this while we wait for updates? I found this link: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/927018/en-us — but it seems confusing & offers no solution.

I provide techsupport with this CAD package & I fear this one will come up many many times soon as people start to use this search more & more – I am hopeing to find the answer before I get bombared. crossing my fingers that you may be able to help!

]]> By: Stan Morris http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-17806 Stan Morris Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:16:23 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-17806 I love WDS, but want to search network drives... something that the Add-in for Files on Microsoft Networks should resolve, if I can every finish the installation. The installer hangs on "This may take a few minutes.", which stays up for hours, until I hold down the power button (TaskMan availed me not). I waited 6 hours on a Win2K3 SP1 system and this is my first time trying it on an XP SP2 system -- I'm stuck on the same dialog and will let the computer sit overnight. I'm 0 for 2 on installing the UNC/FAT add-in and wondering if you could point me in the right direction because I am having terrible luck finding info on the it. I love WDS, but want to search network drives… something that the Add-in for Files on Microsoft Networks should resolve, if I can every finish the installation. The installer hangs on “This may take a few minutes.”, which stays up for hours, until I hold down the power button (TaskMan availed me not). I waited 6 hours on a Win2K3 SP1 system and this is my first time trying it on an XP SP2 system — I’m stuck on the same dialog and will let the computer sit overnight. I’m 0 for 2 on installing the UNC/FAT add-in and wondering if you could point me in the right direction because I am having terrible luck finding info on the it.

]]> By: Scott Leviant http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-17309 Scott Leviant Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:26:44 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-17309 I have several questions. First, I've installed the add-in for files on Microsoft Networks, but I am unclear if 3.0 beta 2 indexes NTFS drives. Second, on the message about installing the DWORD value to index uncached Exchange, should the Windows Search key already exist, or do I need to also create that key? Third, after creating the DWORD for uncached Exchange, do I need to force manual re-indexing? restart? both? I have several questions. First, I’ve installed the add-in for files on Microsoft Networks, but I am unclear if 3.0 beta 2 indexes NTFS drives.

Second, on the message about installing the DWORD value to index uncached Exchange, should the Windows Search key already exist, or do I need to also create that key?

Third, after creating the DWORD for uncached Exchange, do I need to force manual re-indexing? restart? both?

]]> By: Craig Smikle http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-16642 Craig Smikle Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:30:15 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-16642 Will we be able to launch programs with WDS again? Thanks Will we be able to launch programs with WDS again?

Thanks

]]> By: Ben Jones http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-16413 Ben Jones Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:27:20 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-16413 I wondered if someone could help me out. I'm trying to index every file stored on a network drive (the network drive is located on a NetApp SAN device). All I need is an index of the filenames - I don't need to search any file metadata. I've tried WDS v2 and have taken out all the extension exceptions but will this index the filenames of every single file on the drive - if not can I force this? Am I right in thinking v3 will only index extensions which are in the list and ticked? Also, how does WDS know when and where any changes happen on a network drive? Thanks in advance. I wondered if someone could help me out. I’m trying to index every file stored on a network drive (the network drive is located on a NetApp SAN device). All I need is an index of the filenames – I don’t need to search any file metadata. I’ve tried WDS v2 and have taken out all the extension exceptions but will this index the filenames of every single file on the drive – if not can I force this? Am I right in thinking v3 will only index extensions which are in the list and ticked?

Also, how does WDS know when and where any changes happen on a network drive?

Thanks in advance.

]]> By: Brandon http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-15027 Brandon Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:07:11 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-15027 64-bit OSes are currently not supported (which affects me as well since I run Vista x64). I don't know what the plan is around x64 support but I'll try to find out after the new year. 64-bit OSes are currently not supported (which affects me as well since I run Vista x64).

I don’t know what the plan is around x64 support but I’ll try to find out after the new year.

]]> By: marty http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/comment-page-2/#comment-15010 marty Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:07:38 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/2006/08/22/wds-30-beta-2-32-bit-and-64-bit/#comment-15010 The unc indexing add-on doesn't work under XP Pro X64 edition, do you know if it will be fixed or another option made available? The unc indexing add-on doesn’t work under XP Pro X64 edition, do you know if it will be fixed or another option made available?

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