Comments on: Opera begins smear campaign against IE 8

By: white_eagle

white_eagle — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:11:52 +0000

How about instead of crying because the competition actually does something good, why don’t you consider including some standards that will be important for the future of the internet, something like HTML5 or not fail the Acid3 test when Acid4 comes out, maybe??

Oh, I forgot, you don’t really care about that, all you care about is users and $$$$.

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:36:15 +0000

Exactly. And news sites without proper moderation are parroting the same garbage. I think IE8 is a step in the right direction. I’m an Opera user and for the time being have made IE8b2 my default browser.

By: David

David — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:30:03 +0000

I agree. I was an Opera user until their recent complaint to the EU. That was enough for me to stop using it. Nothing but cry babies. Firefox managed to do what they couldn’t, and they are resorting these tatics.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:18:33 +0000

@Emil –

Please, don’t hold back on my account =)

By: Kirkburn

Kirkburn — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:03:07 +0000

me, that is a ridiculous comment. So Microsoft employees are supposed to lie back and take the lies in your world? You want them to quit muscling people out (I assume by not making IE competitive) *and* break company intranet sites? How could that ever work?

Also, describing MS (why MSFT? Is this the stock market?) as the same company it was 20 years is probably quite a compliment.

By: me

me — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:45:27 +0000

You talk about cry babies and yet you here you are whining about an article that goes against the grain of MSFT. How about MSFT actually keep the promises that it makes and quit trying to muscle everyone out? MSFT are still the same company they were 5, 10, 15, and 20 years ago. Microsoft.

By: Josh

Josh — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:43:00 +0000

I’d be scared too if I was Opera. IE8 pretty much removes most of the reasons I was using Opera while additionally having so many great new features.

Opera is still the winner on performance, it always loads so fast, but IE8 is heaps better then IE7 and I can live with tabs opening up a little slower =)

By: John Dowdell

John Dowdell — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:42:27 +0000

“… Opera, well known as a band of immature cry babies, are now attempting to smear….”

If you’ve got photos of them, visibly unhappy in swaddling clothes, then you might have a case here….

jd/adobe

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:28 +0000

Well, to be completely fair, the author *does* care. Opera (and Firefox and others) cannot make inroads into the enterprise until enterprises start building standards-based sites in their intranet. As long as IE doesn’t “force” them to switch, that is not going to change (or at least, it will change slowly).

That said, it’s a purely selfish argument to make. It completely ignores the reality of enterprise needs. In the enterprise, there are needs for all kinds of customization and specialization that may or may not be possible in pure standards tools (there a ton of ActiveX controls, for example). Because enterprises can control the browser their employees are using, they can build exactly the site the need for the cheapest amount of money. If it wasn’t IE, it could be Firefox — maybe an enterprise would build an internal CRM solution that leveraged a custom FireFox add-on. None of that would make it any easier for Opera to make in-roads, and none of that would have any effect on the “standards-based web” that Hakon wants so badly.

By: Emil

Emil — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:27:00 +0000

I was about to critique this article as well, but you’ve done it much better Brandon. Thank you!

By: Phil Sweet

Phil Sweet — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:05:12 +0000

I’ve installed IE 8 Beta 2 on all my machines (Vista X64 and XP). So far, so good. Some Firefox fanboys are jumping all over IE 8. I like to see competition.