Comments on: Are business documents in the cloud secure? http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/ Seattle Geek with lots to say. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: anonymous http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-130581 anonymous Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:21:48 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/?p=576#comment-130581 Windows 7doesn't display the size in the details pane without selection and don't display it robustly enough for 15+ files (requires clicking "Show more details" every single time the selection changes) Moreever the size of different file types is not even shown in a single consistent location before other metadata occupies the location where size is for some file types. The whole experience is beyond horrible and Microsoft Technet forums are littered with about 100 posts about this issue. FAIL. Which XP all does without any IFs and BUTs. The status bar also showed free space which the details pane doesn't show. The status bar also showed the zone (Local Computer, Intranet etc) which the details pane doesn't. BIG FAIL. I don't wanna upgrade to an OS that deliberately hides file sizes and takes huge steps back for file management. Windows 7doesn’t display the size in the details pane without selection and don’t display it robustly enough for 15+ files (requires clicking “Show more details” every single time the selection changes) Moreever the size of different file types is not even shown in a single consistent location before other metadata occupies the location where size is for some file types. The whole experience is beyond horrible and Microsoft Technet forums are littered with about 100 posts about this issue. FAIL. Which XP all does without any IFs and BUTs. The status bar also showed free space which the details pane doesn’t show. The status bar also showed the zone (Local Computer, Intranet etc) which the details pane doesn’t. BIG FAIL. I don’t wanna upgrade to an OS that deliberately hides file sizes and takes huge steps back for file management.

]]> By: Brandon http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-130577 Brandon Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:15:22 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/?p=576#comment-130577 @Anonymous - The same would apply to any internet document storage service. The Office Web Apps, as far as I can tell, are separate from the storage service, and if I understood the announcements, they'll be offered with various options for internet or intranet (i.e. SharePoint) based storage. Windows Vista and Windows 7 display the size of selected files in the details pane. The status bar is disabled by default and is basically deprecated, I believe it only still exists for some specific accessibility cases. Its functionality has moved elsewhere. @Anonymous -

The same would apply to any internet document storage service. The Office Web Apps, as far as I can tell, are separate from the storage service, and if I understood the announcements, they’ll be offered with various options for internet or intranet (i.e. SharePoint) based storage.

Windows Vista and Windows 7 display the size of selected files in the details pane. The status bar is disabled by default and is basically deprecated, I believe it only still exists for some specific accessibility cases. Its functionality has moved elsewhere.

]]> By: anonymous http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-130575 anonymous Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:36:05 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/?p=576#comment-130575 Wouldn't the same issue apply to Office Web Applications? Btw, do you want to know why the world values Microsoft Windows XP? Go here: http://users.forthnet.gr/pat/efotinis/programs/explviewfix.html That's because neither Windows 95/98 nor Windows Vista/Windows 7 can provide this feature. Wouldn’t the same issue apply to Office Web Applications? Btw, do you want to know why the world values Microsoft Windows XP? Go here: http://users.forthnet.gr/pat/efotinis/programs/explviewfix.html That’s because neither Windows 95/98 nor Windows Vista/Windows 7 can provide this feature.

]]> By: Paul Paradise http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-130543 Paul Paradise Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:55:44 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/?p=576#comment-130543 You're probably looking for <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=60762" rel="nofollow">Google's FAQ on Security and Privacy for Google Apps</a>, or more importantly, <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/apps/sso/saml_reference_implementation.html" rel="nofollow">information about their single sign on implementation</a>, which is only available in the paid (Premier) SKU of their service. But if you really want to have 3-factor authentication forcing you to change it every 5 minutes, you can write your own implementation to do so; it looks like some of the more common setups (ie: integration with an existing AD forest) are already productized as addons you can buy. Not sure if you saw this, but apparently the password they "cracked" was ... drum roll ... <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/15/another-security-tip-for-twitter-dont-use-password-as-your-password/" rel="nofollow">password</a>. Yes, the real problem is that Twitter didn't do some common-sense things to stay secure. You’re probably looking for Google’s FAQ on Security and Privacy for Google Apps, or more importantly, information about their single sign on implementation, which is only available in the paid (Premier) SKU of their service. But if you really want to have 3-factor authentication forcing you to change it every 5 minutes, you can write your own implementation to do so; it looks like some of the more common setups (ie: integration with an existing AD forest) are already productized as addons you can buy.

Not sure if you saw this, but apparently the password they “cracked” was … drum roll … password. Yes, the real problem is that Twitter didn’t do some common-sense things to stay secure.

]]> By: Andrew Kovacs http://brandonlive.com/2009/07/15/are-business-documents-in-the-cloud-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-130542 Andrew Kovacs Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:46:47 +0000 http://brandonlive.com/?p=576#comment-130542 Hi Brandon, Thanks for the interest in Apps. I wanted to share some more info. Since it launched more than 2 years ago, Google Apps has offered a SAML-based Single Sign-On service that provides companies with full control over the authorization and authentication of hosted user accounts. They can definitely enforce the same kind of security requirements in the cloud, including regular password expiration and much more. For more details, check out http://bit.ly/GjNg2. You may also be interested in the info we shared on password protection here: http://bit.ly/KclWh Hi Brandon,
Thanks for the interest in Apps. I wanted to share some more info. Since it launched more than 2 years ago, Google Apps has offered a SAML-based Single Sign-On service that provides companies with full control over the authorization and authentication of hosted user accounts. They can definitely enforce the same kind of security requirements in the cloud, including regular password expiration and much more. For more details, check out http://bit.ly/GjNg2. You may also be interested in the info we shared on password protection here: http://bit.ly/KclWh

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